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This blog will be written from an orthodox Christian point of view. There may be some topic that is out of bounds, but at present I don't know what it will be. Politics is a part of life. Theology and philosophy are disciplines that we all participate in even if we don't think so. The Bible has a lot to say about economics. How about self defense? Is war ethical? Think of all the things that someone tells you we should not touch and let's give it a try. Everything that is a part of life should be an expression of worship.

Keep it courteous and be kind to those less blessed than you, but by all means don't worry about agreeing. We learn more when we get backed into a corner.
Showing posts with label Driscoll. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Driscoll. Show all posts

Opus 2013-351: The Jets, Mark Driscoll and P.J. O’Rourke, part 2 of 3

The Jets confessed,  “Deep down inside we’re just no good.”  Society disagrees.  Mark Driscoll agrees.  In a podcast titled “Jesus Preached the Gospel,” breaks it down this way.  This was typed by listening so the punctuation is mine.  I may get a few words off, but it is close enough for understanding.
“Therapy has overtaken theology....A therapeutic model begins with this assumption:  You’re basically a good person.  And what is holding you back is the sins of others and the nature of the culture.  So what we need to do is encourage you to love yourself; to love yourself, to embrace yourself so that you could maximize your goodness. 

“The Bible says, “You are bad.”  A completely different assumption.  And you don’t need to just embrace yourself, you need to become a new self.  You don’t need to just accept who you are, you need to have God change who you are.  And what you need is not to just feel better.  You need to be new.

“And so it is a very different set of assumptions that are working for having to deal with the human condition.  So a Christian will come along and say, ‘Let’s talk about repentance.’  Whereas a non-Christian will come around and talk about something other than repentance.  Do you love yourself?  Do you have a high self-esteem?  Do you feel good about yourself?   You know, are you actualizing your potential?  Do you know how good you really could be? ....  It’s not centered on God as the standard of holiness and right and wrong.  It’s centered more on my feelings and my vision for my life...”
A lot of words.  Too many modern pastors do not accept this clear teaching of the Bible.  Driscoll did not surprise me.  What surprised me was the agreement of P. J. O’Rourke.

To be continued...

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Opus 2011-272, Driscoll on Seekers

Mark Driscoll made another interesting comment in his conference talk.  He said that Calvinists talking about being “seeker friendly” is strange since they don’t believe in “seekers.”  He pointed out that it is more a case of the Holy Spirit going out and chasing down rebels than people coming to Jesus.

He was speaking tongue-in-cheek and making his point by the humor of honesty.  He portrays presenting the gospel as simply putting the truth out there so that those who have already been chosen can respond.  It is like being at a lottery and announcing the winning ticket number.  You may have bought a ticket but a cousin of the organizer somehow ended up with the big reward.  The joke seems to be on all the other people who showed up thinking there was something there for them.

I am sorry.  This view of the sovereignty of God makes Him a clown trying to invent games to amuse Himself.  It starts at a worthy, Biblical place and turns an eternal truth into a cruel game.  Of course the people who preach this the strongest assume that they are of the elect.  They are always rejoicing at being chosen.  It is kind of like going into a cancer ward and rejoicing loudly about being healthy.

The Gospel is for everyone.
(John 3:16 KJV)  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Jesus clearly stated that eternal life was offered to “whosoever” not “who-so-chosen.”

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Opus 2011-271, Driscoll on Regeneration

As I walked recently I listened to another Mark Driscoll sermon.  Actually it wasn’t a sermon this time.  It was a presentation he made to a group at a conference.  The pod-cast was titled “The Four Points of the Movement” and dated 7/24/11.  I got half way through during my walk.  I don’t know if I will bother to finish.  I got angry enough listening to the first half to last me for a few days.

Driscoll was being his normal self.  Although I wish he would move beyond his inadequate Reformed Theology I believe he has the gift of Apostle.  He is one of those people that God is using to penetrate pagan America.  I think that the apostle Paul had some of the same traits.  Arrogant, cocky, pushy and foot in the mouth are some of the terms that come to mind.  Of course we need to understand that arrogance is usually what other people call it when you are right and you know it.  Some times you actually are right and people still call it arrogance because it relieves them of responsibility to consider the merit of what you say.

So I don’t reject Driscoll by habit.  I listen to what he says.  Sometimes I say, “Yes!”  Sometimes I scream and pound on things.  Sometimes I laugh.  But I listen, at least for the first half of his sermons. 

So what got my goat this time?  Clear statements of Reformed Theology.  He was talking along and made this statement, “Regeneration comes before faith.”  If you are Reform, you agree with this.  You may see not problem with it.  It is consistent with the Five Points of Calvinism.  But rarely is it stated so bluntly that unless you are one of the pre-chosen, you have no hope.  Unless you are part of the in-crowd of the elect the Gospel is not good news but a sign similar to the ones that used to be posted, “No Irish need apply.” 

Look at the key verse that we all accept.
(Ephesians 2:8 KJV)  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
The disagreement comes over what is “not of yourselves.”  Since the Five Points of Calvinism include Irresistible Grace and Undeserved Election you, your mind, your will and your agreement are removed by the equation.  Thus, the faith you have it the gift, not just the grace.  In order to have the faith, according to this segment of the church, you are first regenerated by the Holy Spirit. 

Is there something I am missing here?  According to this system God capriciously decides who will get the nod.  He regenerates them, puts in the chip marked faith, pulls out a plum and says, “Oh what a good boy am I.”  We are forced into salvation but of course that doesn’t matter because part of the package is that we are made to feel like this is a good deal.  The other side of the coin is that the large majority that don’t get this “get out of jail free” card are doomed to an eternity in Hell.  This doom is not because you deserve it any more than those who are saved.  They don’t deserve it either.  You are doomed for the sins you had no way to avoid and had no solution for.  This does not make sense to me.

Could God do it this way?  Of course He could.  He is God.  He can do anything He wants.  But if He does it that way then our “love” is nothing but a programing package that makes one person run on Windows and another on Lennox.  It is like playing a computer game where you have all the cheat codes.  You win but the win doesn’t mean much if you have a healthy personality. 

I assume God has a healthy personality.  In His grace I assume that He allows the Holy Spirit to compensate for my sinful nature and allow me to hear the gospel.  I assume His grace makes it possible for me to respond to His love.  I assume His grace allows me to decide to believe, not forces me to believe.  I assume that His grace then continues to work in my life as I take the undeserved gift of salvation and move on into obedience, growth and holy living.

I could be wrong, but understand, according to Reformed Theology I am wrong because God wired me that way. 

I chose to believe that the Gospel is Good News.

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