Welcome to Varied Expressions of Worship

Welcome to Varied Expressions of Worship

This blog will be written from an orthodox Christian point of view. There may be some topic that is out of bounds, but at present I don't know what it will be. Politics is a part of life. Theology and philosophy are disciplines that we all participate in even if we don't think so. The Bible has a lot to say about economics. How about self defense? Is war ethical? Think of all the things that someone tells you we should not touch and let's give it a try. Everything that is a part of life should be an expression of worship.

Keep it courteous and be kind to those less blessed than you, but by all means don't worry about agreeing. We learn more when we get backed into a corner.

Friday, August 26, 2011

Opus 2011-249, Body Attitudes

Wesley met two types of attitudes, the sheep stealers and the life boaters.  One disrupting, the other sharing.

As I have been reading his journals I occasionally come across entries like this:
April 28, 1782 “Coming to Congleton, I found the Calvinists were just breaking in, and striving to make havoc of the flock.  Is this brotherly love?  Is this doing as we would be done to?  No more than robbing on the highway.  But if it is decreed, they cannot help it:  So we cannot blame them.” (Emphasis in original)
We see the same attitudes today.  The guilty parties can be Calvinists, Arminians, Pentecostals, Catholics, you name it.  They are people who have serious disagreements.  I disagree with most of them, but they all believe in a core of basics such as the divinity of Christ and salvation through grace.  (Yes, even the Catholics believe in salvation through grace.  The disagreements are on how and why, not what.)  Instead of going after the cults, pagans and atheists, they raid the folds of neighboring shepherds.

Wesley also ran into the opposite attitude.
November 1, 1785, “When I came to Northhampton, the new Presbyterian meeting house was offered me, twice as large as our own.”
This is the way it should be.  This is why so many Sunday worshipers cooperate with Saturday worshipers.  This is why non-English congregations are allowed to rent space. 

John Wesley was an Arminian.  George Whitefield was a Calvinist.  They had their disagreements and some serious head butting.  But they always came back to seeing each other as brothers in Christ.  In fact, Whitefield had Wesley preach his funeral. 

Brothers and sisters, lets stop the sheep stealing and get to changing the world.

Wesley, John.  The Works of John Wesley, Volume IV, Third Edition.  Kansas City:  Beacon Hill
    Press of Kansas City, 1979.

homo unius libri


  1. I used to work with a guy who believed that his denomination was the only one going to Heaven. I always told him that if his church spent as much time witnessing to the un-churched as they did trying to prove to other churches that they were the only ones in the right, that there would be no unsaved people left on the face of the earth!

  2. Just imagine the look on his face when he sees you in the choir at the First Church of New Jerusalem.

    Grace and peace.


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